parthiban I accept that, the point I was making is that even if it's half the size, there's still the same amount of plastic around it regardless of the size of the sim, so it's not saving plastic.

It's purely about carrier exclusivity, they're now moving to being SIM-less because obviously it's not that difficult to cut a standard sized SIM down to microsim size, and I think you can now buy dedicated cutters to do it.

DaveEdin Oh ffs is this argument still raging?

I'm with Stav.
IP4 - it phones, it texts.
ANY OTHER PHONE - it phones, it texts.

Everything else is just personal taste and nobody's ever going to convince someone else of their preference's superiority...

So long as it does what you need it to do, who gives a monkey what someone else's can/can't do?

Personally, I'll be due an upgrade in February - and I'll have a look then at what's available, .

steviewevie Anyone got a tape measure ? :tongue_smilie: