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iphone on orange - Lexusboy - 18-08-2017
I see vodaphone is now also going to sell the iphone
iphone on orange - parthiban - 18-08-2017
Lexusboy I see vodaphone is now also going to sell the iphone
Yep just heard this myself, that has to mean prices are going to tumble as they couldn't have locked all three into a price fix.
I think there are going to be some very unhappy iphone customers in the next few months.........
iphone on orange - steviewevie - 18-08-2017
I dunno, Apple manages to lock the retailers of iPods and so forth into the same price, so I don't see why they couldn't do that with the iPhone ?
iphone on orange - N2KHL - 18-08-2017
I think 02 were locked into some profit sharing deal with Apple hence the fixed prices. Orange and Vodaphone from what I have read up on are not locked into any such agreement so it should be up to the network as to how much they charge for the phones!
I may be wrong but heres hoping !
iphone on orange - parthiban - 18-08-2017
N2KHL I think 02 were locked into some profit sharing deal with Apple hence the fixed prices. Orange and Vodaphone from what I have read up on are not locked into any such agreement so it should be up to the network as to how much they charge for the phones!
I may be wrong but heres hoping !
Yep that's definitely true of O2, and also the reason why the original Vodafone exclusivity deal fell through (as far as I'm aware) so seeing as they weren't up for it first time round I'm sure they wouldn't have taken it on now when they've lost so much due to it.
But you are right Steve, and it would be catastrophic in terms of the iPod touch if the iPhone tumbled in price, so we'll just have to wait and see.
iphone on orange - redz - 18-08-2017
voda fell thru last time due to retailing opportunities.
in other words carphone warehouse added there weight to the o2 deal as exclusive retailers giving them a bigger footprint. That and charles dunstone and steve jobs got on really well!!
i really dont think you wil see a big change n price. maybe the 3g might be available on the cheaper tariff but they wont allow one revenue stream to cannibalise another. stock may just 'dry up' if this happens as has happened in the past.
what it does mean is that more people will be embraced into the world of apple!!
iphone on orange - parthiban - 18-08-2017
Ignoring other apple products for a bit, there is an argument to say though that after development costs are recovered, now they will be looking to flood the market with iPhones in order to get more revenue from apps and anything else you can get for the iPhone (similar to what happens with games consoles) so it is possible that the opening up to the market is to bring prices down and get iPhones out to as many people as possible.
They could be thinking that pretty much all the people who would pay the current (frankly ridiculous) prices have already done so and now it's time to work on the others who would only buy in at a lower price (basic economics but hey that's how the world works
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iphone on orange - redz - 18-08-2017
tbh if they were going to do that the opportunity was there to do this with the 2g.
i could be wrong though!!
I dont get what so riduclous about the price. the 3g is free on a £45 contract that gives 1200 minutes, 500 txt and unlimited internet.
this is very well placed in the marketplace.
agreed an extra £100 for the 3gs is a bit ott but you always pay a premium for 'prestige' items. lets face it lexus is still a toyota but you pay more for the extra luxuries.
the other side to the argument is if you are only prepared to 'buy in' at reduced rates will you be the customer that buys the add on's apps etc?
intersting debate i think and no doubt one thats happening in boardrooms now!
i have tosay though that if there wasgoing to be a big price drop wouldnt they be shouting about it already? that is unless apple wont let them!
iphone on orange - parthiban - 19-08-2017
Good points there mate, they couldn't do it with the 2G as that would steal sales away from the 3g. If you plan to sell the same device over and over with minor upgrades, you can only do a price slash once you get to its final incarnation - the 3Gs.
The thing is once you're in and you have the iPhone, everyone starts buying apps - they're cheap relatively and easy to spend away without realising. It's the initial buy in cost that puts people off.
You're kind of right about that tariff, but most people won't need or go for that. I don't know the stats, but I'd be pretty sure that the most common tariff is the £35, 600 mins tariff.
Yes it's a premium product, but you don't normally really pay more for one prestige product over another (BMW vs Lexus vs Audi vs Mercedes). Yes there are price differences, but pretty minor ones in the grand scheme of things.
Take myself as an example, when I bought the magic recently, I did start thinking about the iPhone but it just doesn't add up unless you "really" want one.
The Magic is also a decent looking phone, pretty much on par with the 3Gs in terms of spec, but miles cheaper. A 3Gs with the £35 tariff over 18 months would have cost £815. My magic over a 12month contract (which I prefer) costs £440 and would have cost £450 over an 18 month contract.
Obviously Android needs a bit more time to be as slick as the iPhone, but it is generally there. And pricewise it is ridiculous, styling isn't enough to pay double for something as far as I'm concerned.
I'm pretty confident that this will be the strategy taken, I think the 3Gs is the last one in this line of handsets so it's now time to slash the price and flood the market before an all new iPhone comes out next year.
I'm no business genius but that's what I'd guess
iphone on orange - redz - 02-09-2017
little update for those that are interested.. the vp of sales and loyalty has confirmed that they will not enter into a price war with other operators but will instead put the emphasis on network/customer service.