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What I need to know about ECU's etc

What I need to know about ECU's etc

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Morango
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65
12-10-2022, 07:12 AM
#1
I need some help... when it comes to ecu's and standalone or bolt on ones i am completely in the dark, i dont know the first thing about them.

I will be getting a TTE supercharger on thursday along with all the extra's including the computer thing that goes with it. Now do i need to tune it? will it already be set up? and if i want to increase the power by adding 160mm pulley injectors etc do i need to change it and if i do what options are there? do i keep the original is200 ecu no matter what i do by adding another one?

If anyone has a website with the basics or a post which would be most helpful please.

I have turbo'd cars before done many engine swaps but alot of it has been done on older cars and 4x4's. the only car with an ecu i done before i had someone install it all and set it up for a pretty penny. I am pretty good with wiring and electrics on circuit boards but theres a gap in my knowledge that marries engines with electrics :p

Thanks for any help
Morango
12-10-2022, 07:12 AM #1

I need some help... when it comes to ecu's and standalone or bolt on ones i am completely in the dark, i dont know the first thing about them.

I will be getting a TTE supercharger on thursday along with all the extra's including the computer thing that goes with it. Now do i need to tune it? will it already be set up? and if i want to increase the power by adding 160mm pulley injectors etc do i need to change it and if i do what options are there? do i keep the original is200 ecu no matter what i do by adding another one?

If anyone has a website with the basics or a post which would be most helpful please.

I have turbo'd cars before done many engine swaps but alot of it has been done on older cars and 4x4's. the only car with an ecu i done before i had someone install it all and set it up for a pretty penny. I am pretty good with wiring and electrics on circuit boards but theres a gap in my knowledge that marries engines with electrics :p

Thanks for any help

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
12-10-2022, 07:44 AM
#2
For the standard kit the black box will do.

Anything bigger and their is differing opinions with the Lexus ecu. One thing is certain it can't be mapped. My opinion is that a piggyback won't work long term as the Lexus ecu relearns and adjusts so it counteracts the work of the piggyback.

Check out this thread I wrote a while back:

http://www.outlawjapclub.co.uk/forum/sho...Standalone

Should help

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Sparkystav
12-10-2022, 07:44 AM #2

For the standard kit the black box will do.

Anything bigger and their is differing opinions with the Lexus ecu. One thing is certain it can't be mapped. My opinion is that a piggyback won't work long term as the Lexus ecu relearns and adjusts so it counteracts the work of the piggyback.

Check out this thread I wrote a while back:

http://www.outlawjapclub.co.uk/forum/sho...Standalone

Should help


OutlawJapClub Admin Team

Morango
Member
65
12-10-2022, 01:05 PM
#3
Ok, cheers, i will have a read through.

as i said i know nothing about standalone ecu's... or ecu's really, if i was to swap mine out would the things like alarm and central locking still work or is that controlled separately?
Morango
12-10-2022, 01:05 PM #3

Ok, cheers, i will have a read through.

as i said i know nothing about standalone ecu's... or ecu's really, if i was to swap mine out would the things like alarm and central locking still work or is that controlled separately?

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
12-10-2022, 01:49 PM
#4
That's the issue with the Lexus. You would lose some without some careful wiring. But you'd keep the central locking and alarm that's separate.
The immobiliser and some dash functions would be affected though.
Although if you went standalone you'd have a separate ecu controlling the engine you'd need to keep the standard one as well to send a few other signals elsewhere.

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Sparkystav
12-10-2022, 01:49 PM #4

That's the issue with the Lexus. You would lose some without some careful wiring. But you'd keep the central locking and alarm that's separate.
The immobiliser and some dash functions would be affected though.
Although if you went standalone you'd have a separate ecu controlling the engine you'd need to keep the standard one as well to send a few other signals elsewhere.


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el_bandido
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2,757
12-10-2022, 05:39 PM
#5
spend the money and get a Syvecs
el_bandido
12-10-2022, 05:39 PM #5

spend the money and get a Syvecs

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
12-10-2022, 05:47 PM
#6
You've got to consider what do you really want to do in the long run. For these cars it may be more cost effective to get something else that's quickly straight out of the box.

Depends what your after to be honest.

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Sparkystav
12-10-2022, 05:47 PM #6

You've got to consider what do you really want to do in the long run. For these cars it may be more cost effective to get something else that's quickly straight out of the box.

Depends what your after to be honest.


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jay_russell
Posting Freak
3,005
12-10-2022, 08:23 PM
#7
i have a mapped emanage blue for 280 bhp for sale. not sure if thats something for you or not.
jay_russell
12-10-2022, 08:23 PM #7

i have a mapped emanage blue for 280 bhp for sale. not sure if thats something for you or not.

Morango
Member
65
13-10-2022, 09:14 PM
#8
cheers guys, sounds like its complicated, i dont mind spending the money and i was hoping to get around 300bhp ot there abouts.

i can do the engine side of things in just dont know what to do with ecu. id like something simple put of the box, i can solder and connect wires just dont.know about programming it
Morango
13-10-2022, 09:14 PM #8

cheers guys, sounds like its complicated, i dont mind spending the money and i was hoping to get around 300bhp ot there abouts.

i can do the engine side of things in just dont know what to do with ecu. id like something simple put of the box, i can solder and connect wires just dont.know about programming it

el_bandido
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2,757
14-10-2022, 04:35 AM
#9
An ms3 pro might be up your street then. Cheaper than a syvecs and just as feature rich, good if you don't mind some diy
el_bandido
14-10-2022, 04:35 AM #9

An ms3 pro might be up your street then. Cheaper than a syvecs and just as feature rich, good if you don't mind some diy

Morango
Member
65
14-10-2022, 12:23 PM
#10
Yea megasuirts are only up the road from me also, well close enough
Morango
14-10-2022, 12:23 PM #10

Yea megasuirts are only up the road from me also, well close enough

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