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Can a 4x4 pull an HGV?

Can a 4x4 pull an HGV?

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parthiban
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15-12-2017, 05:45 AM
#1
Bit of a random question I know, but just wondered whether it was possible. I got stuck in a massive jam yesterday because a truck had broken down in the middle lane, and the highway patrol goons had blocked off two lanes with cones because of it and we all had to squeeze through the one remaining lane.

They were in a shogun, so a proper 4x4 and I was just thinking instead of sitting there watching us, could they not pull the truck to the left to at least clear two lanes?

Or is a truck just too heavy? I remember that tractor pulled a 747 on top gear, so this is similar isn't it?

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parthiban
15-12-2017, 05:45 AM #1

Bit of a random question I know, but just wondered whether it was possible. I got stuck in a massive jam yesterday because a truck had broken down in the middle lane, and the highway patrol goons had blocked off two lanes with cones because of it and we all had to squeeze through the one remaining lane.

They were in a shogun, so a proper 4x4 and I was just thinking instead of sitting there watching us, could they not pull the truck to the left to at least clear two lanes?

Or is a truck just too heavy? I remember that tractor pulled a 747 on top gear, so this is similar isn't it?


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Rabster
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15-12-2017, 05:51 AM
#2
i guess it would depend on the pay load of the truck, if the truck was empty i would ahve thought so but dont hold me to that
Rabster
15-12-2017, 05:51 AM #2

i guess it would depend on the pay load of the truck, if the truck was empty i would ahve thought so but dont hold me to that

russelllinn
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15-12-2017, 07:31 AM
#3
It can as I have used a Discovery to pull a fully laden petrol tanker off a slip road!!
The Highway goons aren't allowed to though, so they say, they can only pull cars and PLG from the carriageway, they couldn't even pull a car that was on its side to upright it!!
russelllinn
15-12-2017, 07:31 AM #3

It can as I have used a Discovery to pull a fully laden petrol tanker off a slip road!!
The Highway goons aren't allowed to though, so they say, they can only pull cars and PLG from the carriageway, they couldn't even pull a car that was on its side to upright it!!

Lexusboy
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15-12-2017, 08:02 AM
#4
I would say no to your question, as if the lorry had its airbrakes on then your struggle to pull the truck other than that it would depend on the load.
Lexusboy
15-12-2017, 08:02 AM #4

I would say no to your question, as if the lorry had its airbrakes on then your struggle to pull the truck other than that it would depend on the load.

parthiban
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15-12-2017, 08:12 AM
#5
russelllinn It can as I have used a Discovery to pull a fully laden petrol tanker off a slip road!!
The Highway goons aren't allowed to though, so they say, they can only pull cars and PLG from the carriageway, they couldn't even pull a car that was on its side to upright it!!
Interesting, I bet it's some health and safety rubbish rather than an actual inability to do so.......they only had to pull it across one lane, I didn't mean tow it for miles (although there was an exit a few hundred yards up the road so they could have removed it completely too)

This was a fuel tanker too so it must be possible!

Lexusboy I would say no to your question, as if the lorry had its airbrakes on then your struggle to pull the truck other than that it would depend on the load.
Do the airbrakes get locked on if it breaks down?

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parthiban
15-12-2017, 08:12 AM #5

russelllinn It can as I have used a Discovery to pull a fully laden petrol tanker off a slip road!!
The Highway goons aren't allowed to though, so they say, they can only pull cars and PLG from the carriageway, they couldn't even pull a car that was on its side to upright it!!
Interesting, I bet it's some health and safety rubbish rather than an actual inability to do so.......they only had to pull it across one lane, I didn't mean tow it for miles (although there was an exit a few hundred yards up the road so they could have removed it completely too)

This was a fuel tanker too so it must be possible!

Lexusboy I would say no to your question, as if the lorry had its airbrakes on then your struggle to pull the truck other than that it would depend on the load.
Do the airbrakes get locked on if it breaks down?


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russelllinn
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15-12-2017, 08:19 AM
#6
parthiban Interesting, I bet it's some health and safety rubbish rather than an actual inability to do so.......they only had to pull it across one lane, I didn't mean tow it for miles (although there was an exit a few hundred yards up the road so they could have removed it completely too)

This was a fuel tanker too so it must be possible!


Do the airbrakes get locked on if it breaks down?

sometimes the airbrakes do get locked on when it does break down, but they can be disabled in my case they'd failed anyhow! It is rubbish how they can't just move it off the side i'm sure they're 4x4 are perfectly adequate!!
russelllinn
15-12-2017, 08:19 AM #6

parthiban Interesting, I bet it's some health and safety rubbish rather than an actual inability to do so.......they only had to pull it across one lane, I didn't mean tow it for miles (although there was an exit a few hundred yards up the road so they could have removed it completely too)

This was a fuel tanker too so it must be possible!


Do the airbrakes get locked on if it breaks down?

sometimes the airbrakes do get locked on when it does break down, but they can be disabled in my case they'd failed anyhow! It is rubbish how they can't just move it off the side i'm sure they're 4x4 are perfectly adequate!!

Lexusboy
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15-12-2017, 08:19 AM
#7
It would depend on the reason the truck broke down in the first place.
Normally a truck has to build up the air pressure before moving off.

Your now added that the vehicle was a fuel tanker and under health and safety only a person with the correct licence can touch that vehicle and i guessing that the officers around would not hold a LGVC+E ADR licence.
Lexusboy
15-12-2017, 08:19 AM #7

It would depend on the reason the truck broke down in the first place.
Normally a truck has to build up the air pressure before moving off.

Your now added that the vehicle was a fuel tanker and under health and safety only a person with the correct licence can touch that vehicle and i guessing that the officers around would not hold a LGVC+E ADR licence.

parthiban
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15-12-2017, 08:30 AM
#8
Fair enough I guess, but I still think it's stupid that they cause traffic chaos instead of just pulling the truck a few feet on a flat road, no one's going to get killed doing that - especially if they are all wearing hard hats and reflective jackets :lol:

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parthiban
15-12-2017, 08:30 AM #8

Fair enough I guess, but I still think it's stupid that they cause traffic chaos instead of just pulling the truck a few feet on a flat road, no one's going to get killed doing that - especially if they are all wearing hard hats and reflective jackets :lol:


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Chri5
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16-12-2017, 06:06 PM
#9
i dont think they are allowed due to weight.
plus what was the reason the tanker had broken down???
as said if air has dropped then although not impossible to release the whheels i dont think that the highways patrol are allowed to touch it due to the wonderful h+s

also the fact that its in the middle lane on a flat road says quite a bit cos why didnt the tanker driver try moving it over???
it cant of just stopped dead in the middle its gotta of slowly ground to a halt imo
Chri5
16-12-2017, 06:06 PM #9

i dont think they are allowed due to weight.
plus what was the reason the tanker had broken down???
as said if air has dropped then although not impossible to release the whheels i dont think that the highways patrol are allowed to touch it due to the wonderful h+s

also the fact that its in the middle lane on a flat road says quite a bit cos why didnt the tanker driver try moving it over???
it cant of just stopped dead in the middle its gotta of slowly ground to a halt imo

widnes_is200
Member
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16-12-2017, 06:24 PM
#10
i think there is strict health and safety on the breaking strain of tow ropes excetra, so even if the brakes were off i dont think they would be able,
widnes_is200
16-12-2017, 06:24 PM #10

i think there is strict health and safety on the breaking strain of tow ropes excetra, so even if the brakes were off i dont think they would be able,

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