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Dan_Turism0
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21-01-2020, 10:17 AM
#21
what about integrating sat-nav into it?

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Dan_Turism0
21-01-2020, 10:17 AM #21

what about integrating sat-nav into it?


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DaveEdin
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21-01-2020, 10:24 AM
#22
Sparkystav Centrafuse is a full front end for a car pc Dave

Plays songs/films etc, but also has outputs and other aux things.

Presumably though it runs from Windows, as opposed to running as an operating system itself?

The thing is, you can pretty much tailor a Linux install for whatever you need software wise. There are variations for education, media, scientific versions. I don't imagine it'd be all that much more work to create a respin that was designed to work with car data, it'd just depend on the software being available/ported to Linux (say Torque or centrafuse)... Tricky bit would be making sure the software could run fluidly on the hardware...

IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!

Modifications
Completed:

Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )

In Progress:

E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake
DaveEdin
21-01-2020, 10:24 AM #22

Sparkystav Centrafuse is a full front end for a car pc Dave

Plays songs/films etc, but also has outputs and other aux things.

Presumably though it runs from Windows, as opposed to running as an operating system itself?

The thing is, you can pretty much tailor a Linux install for whatever you need software wise. There are variations for education, media, scientific versions. I don't imagine it'd be all that much more work to create a respin that was designed to work with car data, it'd just depend on the software being available/ported to Linux (say Torque or centrafuse)... Tricky bit would be making sure the software could run fluidly on the hardware...


IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!

Modifications
Completed:

Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )

In Progress:

E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake

el_bandido
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21-01-2020, 11:52 AM
#23
DaveEdin Presumably though it runs from Windows, as opposed to running as an operating system itself?

The thing is, you can pretty much tailor a Linux install for whatever you need software wise. There are variations for education, media, scientific versions. I don't imagine it'd be all that much more work to create a respin that was designed to work with car data, it'd just depend on the software being available/ported to Linux (say Torque or centrafuse)... Tricky bit would be making sure the software could run fluidly on the hardware...

torque already works on android, you could stick a USB gps dongle in and have it running your satnav through android as well.

You'd need to recompile everything in ARM architecture even if you did port it to linux, which is the main issue.
el_bandido
21-01-2020, 11:52 AM #23

DaveEdin Presumably though it runs from Windows, as opposed to running as an operating system itself?

The thing is, you can pretty much tailor a Linux install for whatever you need software wise. There are variations for education, media, scientific versions. I don't imagine it'd be all that much more work to create a respin that was designed to work with car data, it'd just depend on the software being available/ported to Linux (say Torque or centrafuse)... Tricky bit would be making sure the software could run fluidly on the hardware...

torque already works on android, you could stick a USB gps dongle in and have it running your satnav through android as well.

You'd need to recompile everything in ARM architecture even if you did port it to linux, which is the main issue.

DaveEdin
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21-01-2020, 12:57 PM
#24
el_bandido torque already works on android, you could stick a USB gps dongle in and have it running your satnav through android as well.

You'd need to recompile everything in ARM architecture even if you did port it to linux, which is the main issue.

Heh I know Torque works on Android, given I use it :lol: :p I don't imagine porting it would take that much, given Android is a variant of Linux in any case. As you say it'd be the architecture that could cause issues - it might not be enough to support the communication between the car and the PC at the transfer rates required to make the data real time... Think it'll be a bit of a wait and see tbh...

IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!

Modifications
Completed:

Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )

In Progress:

E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake
DaveEdin
21-01-2020, 12:57 PM #24

el_bandido torque already works on android, you could stick a USB gps dongle in and have it running your satnav through android as well.

You'd need to recompile everything in ARM architecture even if you did port it to linux, which is the main issue.

Heh I know Torque works on Android, given I use it :lol: :p I don't imagine porting it would take that much, given Android is a variant of Linux in any case. As you say it'd be the architecture that could cause issues - it might not be enough to support the communication between the car and the PC at the transfer rates required to make the data real time... Think it'll be a bit of a wait and see tbh...


IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!

Modifications
Completed:

Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )

In Progress:

E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake

el_bandido
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21-01-2020, 01:14 PM
#25
Also, the pi will have trouble running the later versions of android smoothly, so you'd be looking at 2.2 or something similar to get a usable system. The boot time will also still be in the 30 second ball park.

I've spent quite some time looking at this as a car computer, I really think a more powerful X86 computer is a better option.
el_bandido
21-01-2020, 01:14 PM #25

Also, the pi will have trouble running the later versions of android smoothly, so you'd be looking at 2.2 or something similar to get a usable system. The boot time will also still be in the 30 second ball park.

I've spent quite some time looking at this as a car computer, I really think a more powerful X86 computer is a better option.

DaveEdin
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21-01-2020, 01:36 PM
#26
el_bandido Also, the pi will have trouble running the later versions of android smoothly, so you'd be looking at 2.2 or something similar to get a usable system. The boot time will also still be in the 30 second ball park.

I've spent quite some time looking at this as a car computer, I really think a more powerful X86 computer is a better option.

Agreed, I think a better option would be an x86 based system, but of course you're not getting one of those for about 20-30 quid... The Linux system installed on it as standard has been cut down pretty sharply to make it stay usable with the resource limitations.

I still think we might see something from this in terms of a half decent car PC, but there are a lot of challenges to overcome...

IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!

Modifications
Completed:

Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )

In Progress:

E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake
DaveEdin
21-01-2020, 01:36 PM #26

el_bandido Also, the pi will have trouble running the later versions of android smoothly, so you'd be looking at 2.2 or something similar to get a usable system. The boot time will also still be in the 30 second ball park.

I've spent quite some time looking at this as a car computer, I really think a more powerful X86 computer is a better option.

Agreed, I think a better option would be an x86 based system, but of course you're not getting one of those for about 20-30 quid... The Linux system installed on it as standard has been cut down pretty sharply to make it stay usable with the resource limitations.

I still think we might see something from this in terms of a half decent car PC, but there are a lot of challenges to overcome...


IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!

Modifications
Completed:

Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )

In Progress:

E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake

el_bandido
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21-01-2020, 01:56 PM
#27
the only way this is going to be viable is with an android image I think, plenty of available software for cars on there. It's usable in the car and designed around touch interfaces, I'd say that would be the best bet.
el_bandido
21-01-2020, 01:56 PM #27

the only way this is going to be viable is with an android image I think, plenty of available software for cars on there. It's usable in the car and designed around touch interfaces, I'd say that would be the best bet.

reganlives
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21-01-2020, 02:02 PM
#28
i knew it would be difficult but i've only just started looking into this and didnt realise this would be so much work. Dont know if i'll go ahead with it if I get it now as sounds like it may be a bit of a headache to get it set up right
reganlives
21-01-2020, 02:02 PM #28

i knew it would be difficult but i've only just started looking into this and didnt realise this would be so much work. Dont know if i'll go ahead with it if I get it now as sounds like it may be a bit of a headache to get it set up right

el_bandido
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21-01-2020, 02:02 PM
#29
you can't go wrong for £25. Worst case scenario is you attach it to your television for use as a media box Big Grin
el_bandido
21-01-2020, 02:02 PM #29

you can't go wrong for £25. Worst case scenario is you attach it to your television for use as a media box Big Grin

reganlives
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21-01-2020, 02:10 PM
#30
ooh! I never thought of that! Now that would be one neat media player lol. How would it be powered though from the mains? I guess a blackberry style adapter/charger will work as it takes micro usb
reganlives
21-01-2020, 02:10 PM #30

ooh! I never thought of that! Now that would be one neat media player lol. How would it be powered though from the mains? I guess a blackberry style adapter/charger will work as it takes micro usb

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