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How to tighten my new nuts ?

How to tighten my new nuts ?

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Almost Finished
Senior Member
462
05-04-2018, 01:25 PM
#1
Hi , i bought some light weight D1 spec racing wheel nuts at Japfest on saturday and would like to know the correct torque settings before i fit them ? Thanks , Dave.
Almost Finished
05-04-2018, 01:25 PM #1

Hi , i bought some light weight D1 spec racing wheel nuts at Japfest on saturday and would like to know the correct torque settings before i fit them ? Thanks , Dave.

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
05-04-2018, 01:32 PM
#2
103 Nm for an IS200/300.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
05-04-2018, 01:32 PM #2

103 Nm for an IS200/300.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

TM
Banned
1,687
05-04-2018, 01:33 PM
#3
only can be fitted on cold,with cold rims
only a torque wrench,to the right torque:thumbup:
TM
05-04-2018, 01:33 PM #3

only can be fitted on cold,with cold rims
only a torque wrench,to the right torque:thumbup:

Almost Finished
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462
05-04-2018, 01:38 PM
#4
Thank guys Smile
Almost Finished
05-04-2018, 01:38 PM #4

Thank guys Smile

TM
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1,687
05-04-2018, 01:52 PM
#5
:w00t:please don't use FT...Confusedhock:
TM
05-04-2018, 01:52 PM #5

:w00t:please don't use FT...Confusedhock:

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
05-04-2018, 03:52 PM
#6
One thing that you'll find lots of opposing opinions on is whether to put some copper grease on the studs. Some people have insisted to me that you must do so. But I'm going with Tony Bones's advice, who said that you can't torque it properly if you grease the stud.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
05-04-2018, 03:52 PM #6

One thing that you'll find lots of opposing opinions on is whether to put some copper grease on the studs. Some people have insisted to me that you must do so. But I'm going with Tony Bones's advice, who said that you can't torque it properly if you grease the stud.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

Tango
Senior Member
314
05-04-2018, 04:25 PM
#7
steviewevie One thing that you'll find lots of opposing opinions on is whether to put some copper grease on the studs. Some people have insisted to me that you must do so. But I'm going with Tony Bones's advice, who said that you can't torque it properly if you grease the stud.

Only because you can overtorque with lube, but it should give more consistant results. There's separate torque charts available for bolts that are molybdenum disulphide coated, and the recommended torque is a fair bit lower than for non coated bolts. I'll see if I can find the two for comparison.
Edited 18-05-2010, 08:43 AM by Tango.

IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tango
05-04-2018, 04:25 PM #7

steviewevie One thing that you'll find lots of opposing opinions on is whether to put some copper grease on the studs. Some people have insisted to me that you must do so. But I'm going with Tony Bones's advice, who said that you can't torque it properly if you grease the stud.

Only because you can overtorque with lube, but it should give more consistant results. There's separate torque charts available for bolts that are molybdenum disulphide coated, and the recommended torque is a fair bit lower than for non coated bolts. I'll see if I can find the two for comparison.


IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

TM
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1,687
05-04-2018, 04:40 PM
#8
:w00t:no grease on wheel nuts and studs:w00t:
TM
05-04-2018, 04:40 PM #8

:w00t:no grease on wheel nuts and studs:w00t:

Tango
Senior Member
314
05-04-2018, 04:55 PM
#9
Reverend HighTower :w00t:no grease on wheel nuts and studs:w00t:

Agreed, and make sure the threads are clean, otherwise you could undertorque the studs.
Any substance or material that is in contact with the underhead bearing surface of the fastener or the mating threads, must be taken into account when selecting the torque value. As there's no data (as far as I know) for the coefficient of friction for copper greased studs/nuts, it's safest to use the manufacturers recommended torque value which is only based on non lubricated studs/nuts.
Using copper grease could cause over tensioning of the stud leading to ductile fracture or loss of tensile strength.:thumbdown:

LUBRICANT OR PLATING - TORQUE CHANGES
Oil - Reduce torque 15% to 25%
Dry Film (Teflon or moly based) - Reduce torque 50%
Dry Wax (Cetyl alcohol) - Reduce torque 50%
Chrome plating - No change
Cadmium plating - Reduce torque 25%
Zinc plating - Reduce torque 15%
Edited 17-05-2010, 08:48 PM by Tango.

IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tango
05-04-2018, 04:55 PM #9

Reverend HighTower :w00t:no grease on wheel nuts and studs:w00t:

Agreed, and make sure the threads are clean, otherwise you could undertorque the studs.
Any substance or material that is in contact with the underhead bearing surface of the fastener or the mating threads, must be taken into account when selecting the torque value. As there's no data (as far as I know) for the coefficient of friction for copper greased studs/nuts, it's safest to use the manufacturers recommended torque value which is only based on non lubricated studs/nuts.
Using copper grease could cause over tensioning of the stud leading to ductile fracture or loss of tensile strength.:thumbdown:

LUBRICANT OR PLATING - TORQUE CHANGES
Oil - Reduce torque 15% to 25%
Dry Film (Teflon or moly based) - Reduce torque 50%
Dry Wax (Cetyl alcohol) - Reduce torque 50%
Chrome plating - No change
Cadmium plating - Reduce torque 25%
Zinc plating - Reduce torque 15%


IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

Lexusboy
Posting Freak
9,267
06-04-2018, 03:28 AM
#10
Tango Agreed, and make sure the threads are clean, otherwise you could undertorque the studs.
Any substance or material that is in contact with the underhead bearing surface of the fastener or the mating threads, must be taken into account when selecting the torque value. As there's no data (as far as I know) for the coefficient of friction for copper greased studs/nuts, it's safest to use the manufacturers recommended torque value which is only based on non lubricated studs/nuts.
Using copper grease could cause over tensioning of the stud leading to ductile fracture or loss of tensile strength.:thumbdown:

LUBRICANT OR PLATING - TORQUE CHANGES
Oil - Reduce torque 15% to 25%
Dry Film (Teflon or moly based) - Reduce torque 50%
Dry Wax (Cetyl alcohol) - Reduce torque 50%
Chrome plating - No change
Cadmium plating - Reduce torque 25%
Zinc plating - Reduce torque 15%


That some info there:thumbup1:
Lexusboy
06-04-2018, 03:28 AM #10

Tango Agreed, and make sure the threads are clean, otherwise you could undertorque the studs.
Any substance or material that is in contact with the underhead bearing surface of the fastener or the mating threads, must be taken into account when selecting the torque value. As there's no data (as far as I know) for the coefficient of friction for copper greased studs/nuts, it's safest to use the manufacturers recommended torque value which is only based on non lubricated studs/nuts.
Using copper grease could cause over tensioning of the stud leading to ductile fracture or loss of tensile strength.:thumbdown:

LUBRICANT OR PLATING - TORQUE CHANGES
Oil - Reduce torque 15% to 25%
Dry Film (Teflon or moly based) - Reduce torque 50%
Dry Wax (Cetyl alcohol) - Reduce torque 50%
Chrome plating - No change
Cadmium plating - Reduce torque 25%
Zinc plating - Reduce torque 15%


That some info there:thumbup1:

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